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Is It A Waste Of Time Talking to VC Associates?

Rob Go
February 23, 2010 · 3  min.

There has been some chatter on Twitter about the value of pitching to VC associates. Thought I’d lob in my 2 cents on the shuttle to NYC. Full disclosure – I am a senior associate at Spark Capital.

  1. Roles have blurred between associates, principals, EIR’s, and VP’s. Regardless of title, different roles have different levels of influence within a partnership. Over the years, I think we’ve seen some title inflation at some firms. It comes down to whether a person can lead an investment. In some firms, senior associates can do this in certain cases (I am able to lead seed investments at Spark). Charlie O’Donnel is an EIR at First Round (and a pretty young guy), but just led their most recent investment in Backupify. But in many cases, associates can’t lead investments, and even principles or young partners will get unusually high scrutiny through the deal process.

  2. High quality intros to GP’s > talking to associates > low quality intros. I generally agree with Keith Rabois that you want to get to a decision-maker. It’s common sense, even if it hurts. If I were an entrepreur, I’d try to talk to GP’s I know personally or can get a high quality intro into. But the emphasis is on high quality. A low quality intro is sometimes not much better than a cold call. Also, if you don’t have a quality connection to a firm, getting an associate excited about your company works. An associate pushing for a deal is almost as good as a high quality intro. If not, that VC firm is wasting it’s $ paying that associate. There are many examples of great companies that met their VC’s through associates.

  3. Careers are long and Venture is a young person’s game. In many cases, the associates of today are the GP’s or corp Dev execs of tomorrow. It doesn’t hurt to meet them early in their career as you never know where things will go. There are many good GP’s and angel Investors that were former associates: David Cowen and Alex Ferrara at Bessemer, many of the Battery GP’s, Alex Finkelstein at Spark, Chris Dixon, Jeff Fagnan, Larry Cheng, etc (sorry for the east coast bias, but this is off the top of my head). I wouldn’t burn a lot of time with fruitless meetings, but I’d certainly be respectful and get to know the guys I like. Some of these folks will be decision-makers soon enough.

So, those are my thoughts on whether to talk to Associates. Here are two tips if you are talking to them.

  1. Be mindful of associates at transition points. Usually, these guys have been associates for at least 1 year, more likely 2. They are either rising stars that will be tested by leading a few investments or guys just trying to survive. If they are the former, they can be great assets. These associates will hussle harder than other VC’s to prove themselves and usually have champions within the VC firm who will give them a lot of support. The latter are dangerous because you might spend a lot of cycles with them and get nowhere. Even worse, they may advocate for a decision, get you funded, but leave the firm in 6 months. Be mindful of the risk of becoming an orphan and make sure you establish a strong relationship with the partner on the deal early.

  2. Favor associates with clear domain expertise or a strong thesis. This can be based on their operating experience, blog, or just clear evidence that they know what they are talking about. Meeting these associates can at least be helpful, and typically have a higher liklihood of culminating in serious consideration by partners. It also helps you figure out which firms “get it” in your sector or do not. Typically, I’d be more wary of associates that are clearly chasing momentum. These meetings are less likely to be valuable and could also mean that you are part of competitive due diligence for another deal.

Sorry for typos, this was written on my iPhone.


Rob Go
Partner
Rob is a co-founder and Partner at NextView. He tries to spend as much time as possible working with entrepreneurs to develop products that solve important problems for everyday people.